4-2-5 Basics: Run Fits vs. 2 Back Formations (2024)

People often ask me about how we fit the run in the 4-2-5. They say things like:

"4-2-5 is just a 4-4 with DB's at OLB, so you just fit the run like a 4-4?" or

"4-2-5 is just a 4-3 using nickel sub personnel on every play, so you fit like the 4-3?"

My answer is "Yes" to both. Part of the reason the 4-2-5 is popular is that it can fit the run like a 4-4 or like 4-3. Teams can tailor the fits to their needs. Take for example a basic two back 21 personnel pro formation.

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The defense can align and fit the run like a 4-4. The SS and WS play force while the four down linemen and two inside linebackers account for all the interior gaps.

OR

The defense can choose to fit the run like a 4-3 with a safety filling the role of the third linebacker.

In this example the defense bumps the linebackers (Mike & Will) strong and bumps the WS into the box in the role of the third linebacker. Against a strong or weak flow running play the Mike, Will, and WS fit the run like a Sam, Mike, and Will in a traditional 4-3 defense would fit.

Versus a strong flow run

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Versus a weak flow run

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The defense can alternatively choose to bump the SS into the box and the linebackers weak. The SS, Mike, and Will then fill the role of the three linebackers.

Versus a strong flow run

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Versus a weak flow run

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Lastly, the defense can drop the FS down into the box to fill the third linebacker role.

Versus a strong flow run

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Versus a weak flow run

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How can a defense use thismultiplicity?

Take for example:

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Here is a standard Iso or Lead play from a 21 personnel Pro I formation. If the defense chooses to fit this play like atraditional4-4 defense, it can become a stress play.

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In this scenario the Mike LB fit the FB on the outside half. If the inside linebackers are expected to bracket the fullback, the Will has a difficult job. The Will needs to align wide enough to keep leverage on the guard in case the offense is running an outside flow run weak, like outside zone. This prevents the Will from cheating his alignment too far inside. The result is the Center and Guard can scoop the Nose up the Will, potentially cutting the Will off from his bracket responsibility.

One alternative solution is to have the Mike spill the fullback.

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The Will LB's job is easier because he doesn't have to bracket the FB with the Mike. The new challenge is if the Mike is fitting inside of the fullback's block, who is fitting outside? The offense has a good angle to use the TE to block the SS from folding into the box. That leaves the FS. The FS can make the tackle but not without issues. The RB vs. FS may be a bad match up. The FS may have to make an open field tackle vs. a full speed RB. Requiring the FS to be hyper aggressive to fit the run also opens up play action risks.

Neither fitting the Mike inside nor outside of the fullback may be optimal for the defense.

Some coaches may say:
"The DT needs to squeeze the guard's block and reduce the A gap."
"The Nose needs to control the scoop block, keeping the offensive lineman on the line of scrimmage longer. That buys time for the Will."
"The Mike needs to be violent and jam the fullback back in the hole."
"The Will needs to read his key and be quick to attack the ISO."

These are all true. The issue is that may be easier said then done. Especially when playing good teams. If you want to compete for conference and post-season titles you are going to have to play and beat good teams. What is thesolutionwhentheirfullback is better than yourMike? What if the guard is getting movement on the DT consistently? Being able to change how the defense fits the run can help give the defense solutions to these problems.

Here the defense bumped the linebackers strong and is using the WS as the third LB.

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With the Will bumped over the Center the Mike and Will have much easier time bracketing the fullback's block. The offense does not have an easy angle to block the Mike or Will.

More examples:

When the offense is using an offset fullback or an unbalanced set, the defense can sure up run fits by bumping to a 4-3 run fit.

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Having the linebackers bumped can help get players to the point of attack. The offense most likely wants to run toward the offset fullback. It makes sense to get extra defenders where the offense wants to run the ball.

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Here is an unbalanced formation. The offense most likely wants to run toward the unbalanced side. Being able to bump to a 4-3 run fit can help the defense remain gap sound even against the extra gaps created by the unbalanced formation. TCU coach Gary Patterson wrote about the concept of bumping in the 4-2-5 in his article for Nike Coach of the Year. On pages 6,7,8 of the article Coach Patterson explains TCU's slide and scoot concepts.

There are other times when the defense wants to fit like a 4-4.

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Here the defense is in a 4-3 run fit. If the offense is running a read power to the weak side the defense may have difficulty. The WS has a poor angle to force the wide path of the lead blocker. If the End steps down with the down block of the OT, the Will LB ends up in a 1 on 1 foot race with the RB. This may be a bad match up.

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If the defense is fitting the run like a 4-4, the angles are much easier for the defense. The WS has a natural force leverage from width on the lead blocker. The Will LB can much more easily scrape over the top of the DE and pursue the RB.

The 4-2-5 has the added advantage of disguise. On any play the LB's could bump during the cadence. Any of the threesafetiescould move into the role of thethirdlinebacker. Thedefense can also show a 4-3 fit and bump back into a 4-4 run fit. The result is offenses being forced to constantly identify, communicate, and react to a defense changing it's run fits.

Theversatilityand flexibility are major contributing factors in the success and popularity of the 4-2-5. I'm going to continue the Basics of the 4-2-5 series this off-season as I have time. If there is anything you would like to see, drop a comment or send me an e-mail.

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FAQs

What is the weakness of the 4-2-5 defense? ›

The other weakness of the 4-2-5 is the general smaller personnel associated with this defensive alignment. The defense allows for high pressure, but a big offensive line and bigger backs will be a struggle for 4-2-5 personnel.

What is the best formation against the run? ›

The 5-2 is built to stop the running game. It has five defensive linemen and two linebackers. This is a popular defense in high school and middle school where running is often the primary offensive play. The 4-4 is another popular defense to help stop the running game.

What formations have two running backs? ›

The "pro set" formation features an offensive backfield that deploys two running backs aligned side-by-side instead of one in front of the other as in traditional I-formation sets.

What is the 4-2-5 formation? ›

The 4-2-5 Defense features four defensive linemen, two inside linebackers, and five defensive backs ( 2 CBs, 1 FS, and 2 OLB/S hybrids which we call Dogs).

What is the weakness of 4 2 2 2? ›

What are the disadvantages to playing with a 4-2-2-2? The 4-2-2-2 lacks natural width in attack, so wider counter-attacks are rare. As a result, additional movements from the central players are often required.

Is 4 2 5 the same as nickel? ›

In American football, a nickel defense (also known as a 4–2–5 or 3–3–5) is any defensive alignment that uses five defensive backs, of whom the fifth is known as a nickelback. The original and most common form of the nickel defense features four down linemen and two linebackers.

Which formation makes it easier to make a pass? ›

The basic shape of a 4-3-3 tends to create more triangles between players, and so more passing lanes are open to the ball-carrier. This, in theory at least, makes it easier to play a possession-based game – and this is one reason Johan Cruyff preferred such a shape for the positional game he liked his teams to play.

What are the three types of running backs? ›

There are usually one or two running backs on the field for a given play, depending on the offensive formation. A running back may be a halfback (in certain contexts also referred to as a "tailback" ⁠ ⁠— see below), a wingback, or a fullback.

What formation has no running back? ›

In the empty backfield formation, the quarterback is under center and there are no running backs. This is a true passing formation. It allows for five wide receivers on the field.

What college runs 4 2 5 defense? ›

Wheaton College at the D3 level runs 4-2-5 and match quarters every play. They probably run it 90% if the game. Upper level college shifts out personnel a lot so it's not always a 4-2-5. Wheaton posts games online a lot and they are good at it.

Why is it called Dime defense? ›

This sixth defensive back is called a "dimeback" (D). The defense gets its name because a dime, worth ten cents, is the next step up in United States coin currency from a nickel, which is worth 5 cents.

Is 4 2 2 2 a good formation? ›

The 4-2-2-2 formation can be a good formation when used effectively, as it offers a balanced and versatile approach to both attack and defense. Its strengths include a solid defensive structure, central control, flexibility, and a variety of attacking options.

What is the weakness of the 4-3 defense? ›

Weaknesses of 4-3 Defense

The 2x2 formation in today's modern spread pull the linebackers out of the box, where they are not used to playing. This only leaves 5 defenders in the box and allows the offense to run the football with the 5 offensive linemen blocking. The defense is also very personnel specific.

What is the weakness of the 4 2 4 formation? ›

The 4-2-4 formation requires a lot of physical effort from the attacking players, especially the wingers who need to cover a lot of ground. This can lead to exhaustion in the later stages of the game, making it harder for the team to maintain their attacking intensity.

What is Cover 4 defense weakness? ›

The trade off with cover 4 is that you're left with only three players in the underneath zones which can render it very vulnerable to an opponent's short passing game. With only three players to cover five underneath zones, these defenders are stretched pretty thin.

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