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Ford vs. Lincoln YBlock History Questions?
Posted By Florida_Phil 4 Years Ago
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Florida_Phil | Posted 4 Years Ago |
Supercharged Group: Forum Members | I've been reading the Charles R. Morris book "Ford Y-Block a Performance History" and found the information about the Lincoln Y-Block interesting. I never saw one of these engines back in the day, probably because there weren't many Lincolns in my neighborhood. I understand these engines were used in Turnpike Cruisers? The port layout used in the Lincoln engines was similar to an FE. My guess is Ford developed both engines separately and used knowledge gained from both when they made the FE? I always thought the Y-Block was replaced because of limited displacement growth? Why didn't they offer the Lincoln engine in all Fords? Perhaps cost was an issue. Whatever the reason, the FE turned out well enough.
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DryLakesRacer | Posted 4 Years Ago |
Supercharged Group: Forum Members | I agree. I never made any sense to me that the port arrangement would be so different from the Lincoln to the Ford/Merc. I’m sure it had to do with $$$ to the corporation. The first major use of overhead valve V8’s were out in 49 when Ford made a minimal change to the Flathead that was to be only 3 years but ended up 4. FOMOCO had plenty of time to see the performance gains but chose a difference theory as I understand it. 56 Vic, B'Ville 200 MPH Club Member, So Cal. |
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paul2748 | Posted 4 Years Ago |
Supercharged Group: Forum Members | Is the Lincoln a lot heavier that the Ford - maybe that is why. 54 Victoria 312; 48 Ford Conv 302, 56 Bird 312 |
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2721955meteor | Posted 4 Years Ago |
Supercharged Group: Forum Members | the early y blocks (lincoln) engines where a very durable engine ,hear in bc/canada they where used in trucks,aswel as many industrial power plants(fork lifts, lumber carriers as well skajet co built small yarders for logging mostly powered with the engine. these where different from the car version as had gear driven camshafts, and solid lifters,sodeum cooled exhaust valves. |
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Florida_Phil | Posted 4 Years Ago |
Supercharged Group: Forum Members | In the fifties, Ford and Lincoln divisions must have had completely separate but similar engine programs? The FE looks like a combination of both engines. Then there's the MEL engine? Not sure where that fit in. 430s were bad ass back in the day. There was a 430 powered 57 Ford custom that used to run at our local circle track that did very well. I don't think I ever saw a 430 in a drag car?
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Ted | Posted 4 Years Ago |
Co-Administrator Group: Administrators | The intake port arrangements on the LYB engines are side by side or in pairs. Likewise the center exhaust ports are together. If the intake ports on the Ford Y are flipped 90° from being stacked to side by side, you have a similar port layout as the LYB engines. Both the intake and exhaust port layouts of the LYB and Ford Y was adopted by GM for the SBC development. Lorena, Texas (South of Waco) |
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Florida_Phil | Posted 4 Years Ago |
Supercharged Group: Forum Members | Thanks Ted. Very interesting information.
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2721955meteor | Posted 4 Years Ago |
Supercharged Group: Forum Members | the mel engines had comb chambers in the block, with flat cal heads,383 and 430 was same block,lik 348 chefs comb chamber in block(difecult to bore |
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RB | Posted 4 Years Ago |
Supercharged Group: Forum Members | At about 2:45 into the video you will see a MEL win the US nationals. Also some air time for Ted and myself https://www.hotrod.com/articles/oddball-vintage-engines-engine-masters-2016/ |
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darrell | Posted 4 Years Ago |
Supercharged Group: Forum Members | the 383 and 430 in 58 to 60 mercs used an fe bellhousing.the lincoln 430 was different.its no wonder ford lost out to gm they couldnt make 2 things the same. |
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